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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:13:01 -0500
From: "jfoug" <>
To: <>
Subject: RE: Use of ? in options like --list=format-methods:?, that is mask

-list=list ?   or -list=help or -list=? All seem fine.  Also, there is no
need to have just one.    If you document -list=help, the others should
still be allowed to work.

I think 

>From: Frank Dittrich []
>Jim reported a similar problem for --list=? under Windows some time ago.
>So, may be we should use --list=help instead of --list=?.
>Or. may be, show all possible values when using ./john --list (without
>Now that jumbo-5 got released with --list=?, we need to support it a
>little longer, but we don't need to actively advertising it in the usage

Agreed.  No reason to 'ever' not support it. Just do not advertise.

>Instead of --list=format-methods:?, I would vote for a new option name -
>-list=method-names or something similar.



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