Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:59:25 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: fast hashes on GPU myrice - On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 04:45:15PM +0800, myrice wrote: > Hi, I am trying this. For trade-off, I think we could first set > INITIAL_PLAINTEXT_LENGTH to 16 and set a flag to indicate short > password(flag=0) or long password(flag=1). Makes sense. > The we malloc each password length to 16. In set_key function, if we have a > password larger than 16. We reallocate(free-malloc or realloc) all the > password length to 107 Would you ever revert to the smaller buffer later, if long passwords are no longer seen? It'd be a pity to have a long-running cracking session's speed severely impacted by a single over-long wordlist entry. Maybe you can keep 2 (or more) buffers allocated and switch between them as necessary? > (The maximum of Mac Lion password length). Actually, I don't know what Lion's maximum password length is. 107 is the maximum length that does not require us to invoke the SHA-512 compression function more than once (for 108, we'd have to do it). (That's from my memory from the time when I first wrote XSHA512_fmt.c. I did not verify this number now.) Lion's actual maximum password length is probably different - can be lower or higher than 107. It might even vary by the method used to set the password (such as GUI vs. CLI). > I think it works. A lot of malloc may slow down some speed. I will try > first. Here is still a question, I don't know whether or not we need so > long password?(i.e. 107? or could it be shorter?) I think it'd make sense to have more than 2 buffer sizes, but to keep the largest (rarely used) at length 107. Something like 8, 12, 16, 20, 32, 64, 107. > BTW, On my G9600M GS, the MAX_KEYS_PER_CRYPT is 256*128. The speed is > no difference with PLAINTEXT_LENGTH set to 16 or 107. However, on GTX580, > the MAX_KEYS_PER_CRYPT is 4096*512. There is ~8M c/s slow down(74M c/s to > 66M c/s). It is puzzling that there's significant difference for the multi-salt case, as you say. PLAINTEXT_LENGTH should significantly impact the single-salt case only. Perhaps there's some side-effect of that change? Alexander
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