Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:10:54 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: GSoC project - collaborative and distibuted cracking tool (suitable for the contest) Frank, Aleksey - On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:56:08PM +0400, Aleksey Cherepanov wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 07:43:21AM +0200, Frank Dittrich wrote: > > On 03/23/2012 03:19 PM, Aleksey Cherepanov wrote: > > > Since the time I participated in CrackMeIfYouCan the idea to make > > > john-users team to win it is stuck to me. > > [...] > > > What do you think? > > > > I think it's OK that your motivation to contribute to JtR during this > > year's GSoC has been provoked by last year's CrackMeIfYouCan participation. > > > > But for the GSoC project, the focus should be on features which are > > relevant to JtR usage beyond a CrackMeIfYouCan contest. > > That is totally right. ... Thank you for discussing this! Unfortunately, I have no time for it myself right now, but I like this project idea and I appreciate your efforts on it. So please continue with it. Here's a request: please move these discussions from john-dev to john-users. Frank - maybe you simply re-post your message in response to Aleksey's posting on john-users. Aleksey - maybe you re-reply to Frank on john-users then? ;-) john-dev is for discussing JtR source code changes, whereas john-users may be more appropriate for proposing user-visible features, etc. For a long time, we lived without a john-dev list at all (we only had john-users), and the only topics that did not fit john-users, but do fit john-dev now, were those involving JtR source code change discussions - stuff that was confusing, uninteresting, and irrelevant to end users. FYI, there are about 120 subscribers on john-dev and about 1200 on john-users. (The actual ratio may be a bit less than 10x, though, since john-users is older and likely has more abandoned addresses on it. If any address is bouncing mail, it gets unsubscribed, so those are not included in these numbers, though.) I think this project idea could benefit from the extra feedback we might potentially receive from the wider audience on john-users. Thanks, Alexander
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