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Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:57:15 +0300
From: Shinnok <>
To: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Openwall, Reddit and an idea for Johnny

Hey Solar,

I think it's great and useful you got onto Reddit, so that we can
attract more people to Openwall and John and to get cool ideas for new
development(read bellow).
I must make a real account for my self too and use it, insted of throw
away accounts or as a guest. :)

While reading the reddit threads you submitted I got a cool idea for a
plugin(or default functionality) to Johnny that actually would make
sense to be GUI only:
[–]Gontoran 1 point 15 hours ago
It'd be nice if it didnt need manual configuration for brute-forcing
non-standard encryption containers like what Norton Ghost uses for
backups. I had to script autohotkey for entering all the possible
permutations I could've used into the text box prompt.
[–]solardiz [S] 2 points 13 hours ago
Yeah, there's this feature request. Unfortunately, the feature would
be very specific to each target platform and to each UI type.
Arguably, there should be per-platform tools that will work in
conjunction with JtR (reading candidate passwords produced by "john
--stdout" from a pipe).

This could be implemented from the GUI and to use john --stdout. This
is actually a secondary best use case for --stdout along with creating
I perfectly relate to Gontoran's usage case, where I used AutoIt[1]
once, to crack a password to a non-standard format that was accepting
GUI only input(black box approach), in a virtual machine. Took weeks
to succeed, but I did eventually. Heh.

PS: Don't forget about the irc announcements on the homepage, twitter
and what else you think necessary.




Shinnok <>

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