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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:24:01 +0400
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: move most GSoC discussions to john-dev

Oops, I meant to send the below to john-users rather than john-dev, and
I just did.  In the message below, "in here" refers to john-users.

For now, my advice is that whoever wants to apply for the GSoC tasks
should be on both john-dev and john-users.

Sorry for the mess.  I knew it would be difficult to draw the line,
which is why john-dev did not exist until recently.  But we're going to
need it for truly development-focused discussions, and I think it's best
to start moving most GSoC stuff to john-dev.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 05:18:05PM +0400, Solar Designer wrote:
> Hi,
> I think we should start moving GSoC discussions to john-dev.  So far,
> some occurred on john-users and some on john-dev.  We got useful
> comments from some folks who are on john-users but not on -dev (yet?),
> but we shouldn't be abusing john-users for discussions around JtR
> development indefinitely.  I am going to continue replying to messages
> in existing threads in here, and others are encouraged to do so as well,
> but please join john-dev and start new development focused threads on
> john-dev from now on.  You may subscribe here:
> It is still appropriate to post to john-users when we need users'
> feedback on proposed functionality or when we have anything ready for
> end users (e.g., a useful patch).  However, advanced discussions of
> source code, etc. should proceed on john-dev.
> Thanks,
> Alexander

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