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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 06:46:43 +0400
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: Re: [owl-cvs] Owl/packages/rpm

On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 05:30:44AM +0400, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> In Sisyphus, to mitigate the effect, I relaxed the hardening by limiting
> zeroing permissions of regular files to set[ug]id executables (devices and
> other non-regular files thus remain the subject of permissions zeroing):

This makes sense to me.  Can you get this into Owl as well, please?

Also, we (you?) need to post a follow-up to the thread on oss-security.

> But the example of 'screen' shows that even a set[ug]id executable can be
> a (rare?) subject for legal hardlinking, which leaves us nothing but
> workarounds like manual files removal in %preun scripts.


> If we could
> distinguish %ghost files from others on removal, that would really help us
> to fix the problem.

Maybe, but this would not help with hard-linked trees created by an
admin using "cp -al".  These are indistinguishable from "malicious"
hard-links created by non-admins.

Well, arguably removing/upgrading a package in one of such trees and
hoping that the rest would not be affected is naive, though.


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