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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 20:49:43 +0000
From: "Christey, Steven M." <coley@...re.org>
To: "oss-security@...ts.openwall.com" <oss-security@...ts.openwall.com>
CC: Pax Team <pageexec@...email.hu>
Subject: RE: Re: More CONFIG_VMAP_STACK vulnerabilities,
 refcount_t UAF, and an ignored Secure Boot bypass / rootkit method

Even if it turns into an awkward conversation, I'm sure that Solar would be polite, pointed, and respectful.  We could all learn from his style of moderation.

- Steve


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Seifried [mailto:kseifried@...hat.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 3:47 PM
> To: oss-security <oss-security@...ts.openwall.com>
> Cc: Pax Team <pageexec@...email.hu>
> Subject: Re: [oss-security] Re: More CONFIG_VMAP_STACK vulnerabilities,
> refcount_t UAF, and an ignored Secure Boot bypass / rootkit method
> 
> I think we can agree as a community of professionals that insults and name
> calling are unnecessary and also not very effective. And before I get
> accused of censorship I would point out I'm not wanting to stop anyone from
> talking, I'm only wanting to stop people from talking in a way that is so
> rude and insulting that it poisons the community and scares people away. I
> assume Solar also supports this (if not... ergh. that's gonna be an awkward
> conversation).
> 
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Mansour Moufid
> <mansourmoufid@...il.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How could they know that calling people clowns and their work garbage
> > wasn't
> > > payment enough?
> > >
> > > With no technical content coming from your end, there's no need to
> > discuss
> > > anything further -- don't waste your time because I won't reply.
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and anyone else stupid enough to do any work at all for
> > > you and your multi-billion dollar sponsors for free.
> > >
> > > -Brad
> >
> > Is there another mailing list for discussions of Linux security? Or forum?
> >
> > I have been thinking of sharing a few patches for the last couple months.
> > I don't think this is the right place after the kind of insults I saw this
> > week.
> >
> > Apologies if off topic.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Kurt Seifried -- Red Hat -- Product Security -- Cloud
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