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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 12:09:14 +1000
From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>, 'Josh Poimboeuf' <jpoimboe@...hat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 02/11] mm: Hardened usercopy

David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM> writes:

> From: Josh Poimboeuf
>> Sent: 22 July 2016 18:46
>> >
>> > e.g. then if the pointer was in the thread_info, the second test would
>> > fail, triggering the protection.
>> 
>> FWIW, this won't work right on x86 after Andy's
>> CONFIG_THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK patches get merged.
>
> What ends up in the 'thread_info' area?

It depends on the arch.

> If it contains the fp save area then programs like gdb may end up requesting
> copy_in/out directly from that area.

On the arches I've seen thread_info doesn't usually contain register save areas,
but if it did then it would be up to the arch helper to allow that copy to go
through.

However given thread_info generally contains lots of low level flags that would
be a good target for an attacker, the best way to cope with ptrace wanting to
copy to/from it would be to use a temporary, and prohibit copying directly
to/from thread_info - IMHO.

cheers

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