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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 07:21:56 +0300
From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Johnny: core/jumbo differences

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 06:36:40AM +0300, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:08:39AM +0300, Aleksey Cherepanov wrote:
> > What are show-stoppers that prevent johnny from being used much?
> 
> I think it's primarily the way it is distributed now - only some old
> version (not that there's any newer one yet) and only on the wiki.
> 
> I should probably start distributing it in the same way as I distribute
> jumbo on the main Openwall website and file archive.  Alternatively, or
> additionally, we may consider merging it into the jumbo tree and thus
> into jumbo's distribution tarballs.  When we use autoconf anyway, we
> could as well have it detect Qt and stuff, and build johnny right there.
> This would boost Johnny's popularity.

Oh, and of course having binaries portable across distros matters.
Aleksey did some builds like this before (for Linux only), and we should
continue and do more in this area (also for OS X and Windows), even
though it can be tricky.

If we integrate Johnny into the jumbo tree, and someone builds all of
this and puts out the binaries, chances are that the resulting "john"
binary will work on more systems than the resulting "johnny" binary.

Alexander

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