Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:35:07 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: xvendor@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: distributions at l.fd.o On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 08:29:49AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Solar Designer wrote: > > My opinion is that it only makes sense to continue with two lists if we > > can actually identify how the lists will differ from each other, and I'd > > be fine with having the desktop-specific cross-vendor issues (including > > graphical boot, interoperability and licensing of desktop-specific apps, > > etc.) being the topic for distributions@...d.o rather than xvendor (and > > I think that will work most of the time). > > When the focus of distributions@....o lays on desktop issues, both > lists in parallel make sense to me since different issues are topic. That's what I was thinking, but apparently Lucas and Vincent think that this won't work (not sure why not). > However, with both lists being merely unknown it's questionable if > those issues will be discussed on either list. So you're advocating us making either list - or maybe both lists? - known to more people? Right now? I kind of started working on that, but I am being (too?) honest by mentioning the unclear status of xvendor given that there's "distributions". Maybe that discourages some people from joining either list? If so, should I merely "advertise" xvendor now, thinking that we can "re-route" to "distributions" later if that is the decision? I've mentioned xvendor on this announcement (sent out 10+ hours ago): http://www.openwall.com/lists/announce/2008/04/17/1 > If the focus of distributions@....o lays on desktop issues, topics > such as what to do with cdrecord, GCC and library incompatibilities > and the like would not be wanted there. Right. However, library incompatibilities, issues with static linking, etc. that are limited to X stuff (x.org, widget libraries, window managers, etc.) would be on-topic for "distributions", but not for xvendor. And I'd be very comfortable with that. I think that this separation by topic might match the majority of current subscribers to either list - considering where the lists were announced initially. Sure, many of those on "distributions" are also interested in non-desktop issues, but they can simply join xvendor as well. Alexander
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