Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 13:27:37 +0100 From: "e@...tmx.net" <e@...tmx.net> To: passwords@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Authentication vs identification On 12/17/2017 02:58 AM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Dec 16, 2017, at 3:30 AM, "e@...tmx.net" <e@...tmx.net> wrote: > >>> Although authentication typically requires the active participation of the prover, while identification may not, that is not the crucial distinction. It would be a mistake to define the difference in those terms. >> >> a counterexample? > > Every time you tell someone your name or enter your username into a site you are participating in the identification process. > come on! i meant the opposite counterexample: an auth occurrence that does not require my active participation. the original claim was about the auth requiring smthng. NOT about the id excluding my participation. still, when i provide ma passport to a party that wants to ID me, i do not ID myself, they do it to me.
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