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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:22:07 -0400
From: Scott Arciszewski <scott@...agonie.com>
To: passwords@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: GMOs And Passwords

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:18 PM, e@...tmx.net <e@...tmx.net> wrote:

> [insult skipped]
>
> But how we as service developers can automate checks for such kind of
>> advices? Should we?
>>
>
> we should NOT!
>
> (1) it is completely different area of responsibility.
> do not mess with the users' free will.
> expending of your "care" beyond the boundaries of your responsibility
> always cases more trouble than good.
>
> (2) an ideal password should FAIL all checks.
> checks are LIMITATIONS.
> a password that complies to a policy is worse than a password that does
> not.
>

​On one side, I can see how "don't
​reject any values" could lead to more work for attackers.

On the other, if they're certainly going to guess 123456 and password,
maybe we shouldn't allow users to use those strings in the first place?
​

Scott Arciszewski
Chief Development Officer
Paragon Initiative Enterprises <https://paragonie.com/>​

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