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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:19:46 +0100
From: Piotr Meyer <aniou@...tek.pl>
To: owl-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: owl-startup

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:38:36PM +0300, (GalaxyMaster) wrote:
> [skipped]
> 
> > In the abovementioned situation, I never asked anyone to take my logs away
> > and, more importnatly, I gained NOTHING I need, only the trouble.
> 
> I think you've missed the point: journald works _together_ with a syslog
> daemon.  If you don't run a syslog daemon, then you have an option to
> have binary logs only (through journalctl), however, most people are
> using syslog daemons to get textual logs.

To be honest - I don't see advantage in putting into log chain additional, 
fragile[1] element who loses logs[2] and is exceptionally slow (RHEL7 works 
around pitiful journald performance by putting binary logs in ramfs, as
I see).

1 - https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@...ts.debian.org/msg1284749.html
    https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74280
2 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762700

Regards,
-- 
Piotr 'aniou' Meyer

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