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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:38:59 +0100
From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@...too.org>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
Subject: Re: (linux-)distros list use statistics

On 11/13/2017 08:33 PM, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 08:13:05PM +0100, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
>> As far as I'm aware I haven't gotten access to edit the wiki page for
>> publishing it.
> 
> Please feel free to create a page like:
> 
> http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros/stats
> 
> You don't need any special access for that.

Ah, will look into that soon then.

> 
>> The wikified stats based on the generated DocuWiki output is available
>> in very basic style at the testing instance:
>>
>> https://wiki.sumptuouscapital.com/doku.php?id=distros_stats
> 
> Thank you, Kristian!
> 
> This lists two very long embargo periods for two Linux kernel issues: 96
> days for CVE-2017-7533 and 28 days for CVE-2017-1000255.  While this is
> useful info, it does not reflect (linux-)distros' lists performance as
> it includes embargo periods from prior to disclosure to those lists.
> Also, we can't reliably know of such prior embargo periods, so our data
> would be inconsistent, which is especially bad for calculating averages.

It is calculated from first report on distros list, that said, for
CVE-2017-1000255 there was some missing data for first publication (it
is public through
https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2017-1000255 and
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/101264 since 9th), so the publication
time is 5.97 days (although not for oss-security posting).

> 
> I think for our statistics collection, we should primarily use embargo
> periods since disclosure to (linux-)distros' lists, and secondarily
> since the possibly earlier embargo start dates when known (like you did
> now).  Can you add such data?
> 

That should be the data already used.

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