Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 21:34:05 +0200 From: Hanno Böck <hanno@...eck.de> To: mancha <mancha1@...o.com> Cc: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: On sanctioned MITMs My quick take on this: It is very common that when you run any kind of IT infrastructure that you outsource some technical parts to third parties. Your security relies on the question how trustworthy these third parties are. I don't see anything special here with outsourcing your server's TLS handling. Or anything special about cloudflare. When you outsource IT infrastructure you trust someone. Just a thought experiment that has nothing to do with CDNs or TLS: Most medium or small Web services don't have their own datacenters. They have servers - either rented or their own - in a datacenter run by someone else. With physical access to the machine basically you can own them completely. There's almost nothing you can do to secure a machine where non-trustworthy people have physical access. So I don't deny there are potential problems. But I don't see them as new or special. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: hanno@...eck.de GPG: BBB51E42 Content of type "application/pgp-signature" skipped
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