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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:14:08 -0700
From: Seth Arnold <>
Subject: Re: Re: USBCreator D-Bus service

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 05:50:35PM -0700, Tavis Ormandy wrote:
> > We treat local root escalation vulnerabilities with a high priority[1].
> I wish you had spoken up during the previous discussion. It was my
> impression that embargoes for local privilege escalations were universally
> considered deprecated.

Believe me, I would have spoken up had I noticed any concensus forming
around that idea in the previous discussions; I don't recall seeing it.

Anywhere, here we are, I'm speaking up now. Local root is still important
to us.

> Embargoes tend to make things worse, see your apport patch developed during
> embargo or shellshock for examples. However, if you're sure, I'm willing to
> do so for Ubuntu specific bugs in future.

I still believe reasonable length embargoes help more than they hurt; the
failures are more obvious than the successes.


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