Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:26:05 -0600 From: Kurt Seifried <kseifried@...hat.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: list policy (Re: Truly scary SSL 3.0 vuln to be revealed soon:) On 28/10/14 06:48 PM, Alexander Cherepanov wrote: > On 2014-10-29 02:47, Kurt Seifried wrote: >> On 28/10/14 07:47 AM, Alexander Cherepanov wrote: >>> On 2014-10-15 12:30, Solar Designer wrote: >>>> - Please don't send fully working exploits (but testcases that exercise >>>> the flaw are welcome) >>>> >>>> FWIW, I've always been tempted to remove the latter guideline, >>> >>> Then perhaps just remove it? It always seemed to me a strange >>> restriction. Other guidelines are either technical in nature or they are >>> intended to reduce the amount of noise. This restriction seems to be >>> neither. >>> >>> Of you can replace it with something like this: >>> - Please only send fully working exploits which themselves are >>> open-source. >>> >> Will someone/people vet the exploits to make sure they are not trojan >> horses/self harming (e.g. the rm -rf * embedded in it somewhere?). >> Strikes me as a heck of a watering hole attack potentially (and yes, >> list members should know better, but ... yeah). > > This is an interesting question but how "fully working exploits" differ > from "testcases that exercise the flaw" in this regard? For example using something like metasploit the code would (in theory) be more radable and anything hidden/obfuscated would stick out. My vote would be to require well written nmap scripts or metasploit modules that don't contain obfuscated code/etc. This would also make getting them to work simpler (no use of weird one off CPAN modules or specific versions of some obscure python thing, etc.). -- Kurt Seifried -- Red Hat -- Product Security -- Cloud PGP A90B F995 7350 148F 66BF 7554 160D 4553 5E26 7993 Download attachment "signature.asc" of type "application/pgp-signature" (820 bytes)
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