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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:09:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: cve-assign@...re.org
To: kseifried@...hat.com
Cc: cve-assign@...re.org, oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: perl-Razor-Agent logs to /razor-agent.log by default

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> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058772
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514979

> I'm inclined to not call this a DoS ... I can see situations where
> this could be a problem.

Maybe a CVE is needed for Red Hat's SELinux configuration - see below.

As far as we can tell, this may be intentional behavior from the
perspective of the upstream code. If the razorhome setting has a ""
value, then the product doesn't use full directory paths and instead
defaults to the current working directory (the / directory here):

  sub read_conf {
  ...
  # add full path to all config values that need them
  if ($self->{razorhome}) {
  foreach (qw( logfile ...


Here, $self->{razorhome} has a value of "" because /root/.razor
doesn't exist (SELinux had previously prevented its creation):

  sub find_home {
  ...
      my $dotrazor = '.razor';
  ...
      $rhome = File::Spec->catdir("$ENV{HOME}", "$dotrazor");
  ...
      if (-d $rhome) {
  ...
        $self->{razorhome} = $rhome;
        return 1;
    }
  ...
    $self->{razorhome} = "";

Are you interested in having a CVE assignment because this is a
vulnerability in the default SELinux policy in various RHEL and Fedora
versions? This seems to be an unusual situation in which denying write
access to /root/.razor is what causes the vulnerability to exist.

In other words, what is Red Hat's position on customer expectations
for packages that function in an different/vulnerable way in SELinux
Enforcing mode? Is it something like:

  - when Red Hat created the package, Red Hat was supposed to either
    ensure that the default SELinux policy was compatible with the
    filesystem access required by the package, or else develop a Red
    Hat custom patch to use a different part of the filesystem (e.g.,
    maybe something under /var instead of /root/.razor in this case)

Or is it something like:

  - every user is on their own to read setroubleshoot reports,
    determine why SELinux Enforcing mode results in vulnerable
    behavior for a package shipped by Red Hat, and then use semanage
    commands to get the behavior that they want

? Also, if it's undesirable for a mail-handling daemon to write to the
top-level / directory, shouldn't the default SELinux policy have
prevented that? Is it possible to construct a policy to express a
position such as "new top-level files aren't ever allowed; every new
file must be at least one level below the / level"?

> it doesn't appear that the attacker can trigger faster growth

Of course, there can't be a CVE assignment unless an attacker can
trigger faster growth. (Unexpected resource consumption caused solely
by the administrator's decision to install perl-Razor-Agent doesn't
qualify for a CVE; that doesn't cross privilege boundaries.)

It looks like attackers were supposed to be able to trigger faster
growth simply by sending more mail, e.g.,

    my $defaults = {
        debuglevel         => "3",

   $self->log (3,"ignoring mail $obj->{id}, whitelisted by rule: $sh: $address");

   $self->log (3,"mail $obj->{id} is ". ($obj->{spam} ? '' : 'not ') ."known spam.");

Is this even possible, or does SELinux Enforcing mode disrupt normal
operation enough that the code never reaches "$self->log (3" lines?

- -- 
CVE assignment team, MITRE CVE Numbering Authority
M/S M300
202 Burlington Road, Bedford, MA 01730 USA
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