Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:08:02 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: [OT] FD mailing list died. Time for new one On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 04:17:45PM +0200, Georgi Guninski wrote: > it is likely I get banned from here, Georgi surely worked hard towards achieving this goal, in other threads in here as well. While I have no intent to ban anyone, especially not someone like Georgi who has made valuable contributions to this community (I am referring e.g. to the qmail integer overflow bug, which I personally think Georgi deserved the bounty for), I will be revoking moderation bypass "privilege" from people abusing such "privilege". In general, when a new member joins oss-security they do not have moderation bypass "privilege", regardless of who they are. As soon as they've made one or a few approved posting(s) with no postings rejected (like Georgi did when bringing up the FD list topic initially), they're typically granted such "privilege", in good faith, because this helps reduce delays in discussions and reduces load on the moderators. However, as easily as this is granted, it may be revoked - again, regardless of who the person is and how valuable a community member they are in other aspects (as well as e.g. whether they're a friend of mine or not). Neither action should be taken personal. Moderation bypass "privilege" is not endorsement, and revoking it is not banning. This is merely a tool I use to help run this list smoothly and with less effort. This is why I put this word in quotes. So, Georgi, you're still not banned, and I have no such plans, but please do not be surprised that further messages from you will incur delays and some might be rejected. I and other moderators are going to judge on which messages to approve based on the content of those messages, as usual. If you (or anyone) post something reasonably valuable to be worth distributing to list members, it will be approved (and please don't mind the delays). A few of your recent messages were below this threshold, in my opinion. I hope that Fyodor will be approving all of your messages on FD. If I were running FD, I'd setup/keep the moderation bypass for you on that list. After all, FD is all about noise, right? ;-) And what can be better than noise from a(n otherwise) respected community member? ;-) oss-security is not FD. We don't tolerate noise as much. Noise goes to FD, please. Now, surely any mention of CVE is worse than noise to you, but that's another (non-)issue. I think most people care about the actual vuln descriptions and such regardless of whether CVEs are being assigned. That said, this is yet another reason why FD is a better fit for you. Thanks, Alexander
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