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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:05:43 +0000
From: aconcernedfossdev@...mail.cc
To: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Cc: ubuntu-users@...ts.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-devel-discuss@...ts.ubuntu.com,
kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of
GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the
Linux Kernel?
> their customer restriction "you can redistribute
this code, but if you do we will on longer provide you
with updates" does not change that.
That is the imposition of an additional term, a court would not be
amused by the programmers claim it's fine because he didn't ink it into
the copy of the license he distributed the code with. The court would
not be blind to the effect and the intention. The law has dealt with
transparent schemes like this for hundreds of years, and within
copyright for about a century (but much longer within contract law).
There should be a joint action.
On 2017-06-15 15:58, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 15:34 +0000, aconcernedfossdev@...mail.cc wrote:
>> Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly
>> violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?
>> He is also violating the license grant, Courts would not be fooled
>> by his scheme to prevent redistribution.
>
> Right now there are a few million systems that use
> grsecurity, and over a billion systems that are not
> protected by grsecurity functionality.
>
> Removing grsecurity from the community has been an
> impetus to finally get the grsecurity functionality
> into the upstream kernel, where it can benefit the
> billion systems that do not have it today.
>
>> Why does not one person here care?
>> Just want to forget what holds Libre Software together and go the way
>> of BSD?
>
> What holds Linux together is community. The license
> is one of many aspects to that community, but far
> from the only one.
>
> GRSecurity has been outside of the community for years,
> and their customer restriction "you can redistribute
> this code, but if you do we will on longer provide you
> with updates" does not change that.
>
> Having the remaining developers who are interested in
> hardening work on getting more functionality upstream,
> now that the grsecurity patches are no longer available
> to non-customers, is likely a good thing for everybody.
>
> Want to help out? Join us in ##linux-hardening on
> irc.freenode.net.
>
> kind regards,
>
> Rik van Riel
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