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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:54:35 -0700
From: Donald Raikes <evhadu@...look.com>
To: "john-users@...ts.openwall.com" <john-users@...ts.openwall.com>
Subject: RE: jtr newbie: getting no hashes loaded message

Magnum,
 
I just want to say THANKYOU!
 
I changed the "$" to a "$|" in my password file, grabbed the bleeding-edge jumbo version and compiled it, and started john running.
 
It has been running for almost 2 hours now, and usernames and passwords are scrolling accross the screen as fast as they can go.  
 
My password file is roughly 41M in size, and the john.pot file is over 5M in size already so I assume it is at least 10%  of the way through the password file already.
 
Thanks to you and everyone else who has conntributed to this conversation.  This final assignment of the semester is graded on how many passwords we crack with respect to the other students in the class, so hopefully with all the tweaks I have done to get jtr to work with my file, it will crack most of hte passwords.
 
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 01:19:49 +0100
> From: john.magnum@...hmail.com
> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
> Subject: Re: [john-users] jtr newbie: getting no hashes loaded message
> 
> Please don't top-post.
> 
> Did you read my entire mail? If you literally changed that ":" to "$" it 
> won't work (yes it will load, but it will not crack). It needs to be 
> "$|" to include that static pipe character.
> 
> magnum
> 
> 
> On 2013-12-05 01:10, Donald Raikes wrote:
> > Magnum,
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > After changing the ":" to a "$" I get 450,000 hashes loaded with 4096 different salts.
> >
> > Now it is just a matter of waiting for the process to finish.
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:17:34 +0100
> >> From: john.magnum@...hmail.com
> >> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
> >> Subject: Re: [john-users] jtr newbie: getting no hashes loaded message
> >>
> >> On 2013-12-05 00:08, Donald Raikes wrote:
> >>> Magnum,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the hints. I had already thought of the dynamic_62 format, but when I run:
> >>>
> >>> $ ./john --format dynamic_62 pwd.txt
> >>>
> >>> I get no hashes loaded.
> >>
> >> That is because you use ':' between hash and salt as opposed to the '$'
> >> I suggested.
> >>
> >>> When I run:
> >>>
> >>> $ ./john --format=raw-sha256 pwd.txt
> >>> I get 452,000 hashes loaded
> >>>
> >>> However, when I combine the second command with a wordlist of over 18,000,000 words, it returns 0 matches.
> >>
> >> Trying to crack salted hashes with an unsalted format will do no good.
> >> Although actually if a password candidate happens to end with the
> >> literal salt, it will be cracked (claiming the salt was part of the
> >> password).
> >>
> >>> According to the java source code that was used to generate teh file, the hash was created as follows:
> >>>
> >>> 1. a secure random 12-bit number is generated.
> >>> 2. sha256($p+"|"+$s);
> >>
> >> Here's an important detail. It seems we have a literal "|" character to
> >> deal with too. Instead of hacking source code and rebuild JtR, you can
> >> add that literal character so eg. a salt of "1234" is listed as "|1234".
> >>
> >>> 3. base64_encode(hash from #2);
> >>>
> >>> I wrote a java program to base64_decode the encoded hash and print it in hexadecimal format.
> >>> I checked the output with an online base64 to hex converter and it was correct.
> >>>
> >>> so now my file format is:
> >>>
> >>> username:sha256($p.$s):salt
> >>>
> >>> When I ran the second format of the john command from above it said that 452,000 hashes were loaded wit h 0 different salts.
> >>>
> >>> it seems like the salts are not being taken into account.
> >>>
> >>> a snippet of my password file is below:
> >>>
> >>> ShortChic74@...oo.com:D59E1B36975F72F2D15BFFBB522F33953636EFB4ABAEAC749A560384A33A9D75:2179
> >>> mirda@...l.uajy.ac.id:11C23E4E4167803DC83AB04AB6BF17B9EF60EE3C957D3DFA974144E131BC617B:2018
> >>> Hayley_06jf@...oo.com:90C662E90AD50F4114FCC5A2F3EA82738C25B64BB716CB811B320816F7DDD7A0:387
> >>> mjharleygirl83@....com:5BF2293A6088C85AC23CBC82A074B76C05CECDC7FAE42AEF9B8DDC3AAD09FCE8:2802
> >>>
> >>> Any tips welcome :-)
> >>
> >> This works (using dynamic_62):
> >> ShortChic74@...oo.com:D59E1B36975F72F2D15BFFBB522F33953636EFB4ABAEAC749A560384A33A9D75$|2179
> >> mirda@...l.uajy.ac.id:11C23E4E4167803DC83AB04AB6BF17B9EF60EE3C957D3DFA974144E131BC617B$|2018
> >> Hayley_06jf@...oo.com:90C662E90AD50F4114FCC5A2F3EA82738C25B64BB716CB811B320816F7DDD7A0$|387
> >> mjharleygirl83@....com:5BF2293A6088C85AC23CBC82A074B76C05CECDC7FAE42AEF9B8DDC3AAD09FCE8$|2802
> >>
> >> I *know* that, because I just now cracked one of them. Oh, make that two.
> >>
> >> magnum
> >>
> >   		 	   		
> >
> 
> 
 		 	   		  

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