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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:50:51 +0000 (UTC)
From:  Phantom <phantom_otw@...oo.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject:  Re: rules - Q vs M and their effects on speed?

First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer :)

So, regarding the first example, it does make a difference in which order rules 
are entered in the conf/ini file when the rules have a possibility "creating" 
duplicate candidate words.
That way the Q can "cover" more than one rule/line?
I was under the impression that the Q and M switches were only applied to the
rule/line
in which they appeared...

So how does one decide in which rules to include a Q in order to avoid 
as many duplicates as possible and how does Q's affect the spreed of which JTR
generated the new candidate passwords?

I'm still not sure that I fully understand the M function :(
Maybe expanding the example with a few words would make the explanation easier
to understand.. :)
I will experiment a bit with a small wordlist, rules and stdout to get a better 
idea :)


Regards


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