Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0500 From: Dennis Olvany <dennisolvany@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: I can't see the passwords - beginner's question - sorry > Please note that NTLM hashes are not nearly as weak as LM ones are This is good to know. I never realized lm and ntlm were discreet entities. I thought they were one and the same. I've seen much likely-erroneous commentary based on the misunderstanding of this distinction. How does ntlm compare to other hashes with reference to over-the-wire security?
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