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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0500
From: Dennis Olvany <dennisolvany@...il.com>
To:  john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re:  I can't see the passwords - beginner's question
 - sorry

> Please note that NTLM hashes are not nearly as weak as LM ones are

This is good to know. I never realized lm and ntlm were discreet 
entities. I thought they were one and the same. I've seen much 
likely-erroneous commentary based on the misunderstanding of this 
distinction. How does ntlm compare to other hashes with reference to 
over-the-wire security?

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