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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:04:13 +0100
From: Frank Dittrich <frank_dittrich@...mail.com>
To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Oracle11 vs. lotus85

On 01/02/2014 10:22 AM, Frank Dittrich wrote:
> On 01/02/2014 05:47 AM, magnum wrote:
>> On 2014-01-01 19:39, magnum wrote:
>>> On 2013-12-31 02:32, Frank Dittrich wrote:
>>>> I reported the error in August (without bisecting it at that time), but
>>>> nobody cared:
>>>> http://www.openwall.com/lists/john-dev/2013/08/01/8
>>>> http://www.openwall.com/lists/john-dev/2013/08/02/4
>>>
>>> Was the SAP issue fixed since then? I now get 0 cracked for Oracle11 but
>>> no problem with SAP.
>>
>> The Oracle11 problem was just because TS need to supply
>> --format=oracle11 after lotus85 was added. Fixed in TS.
> 
> Funny.
> 
> (bleeding-jumbo)run $ ./john ../test/oracle11_tst.in --format=lotus85 |tail
> Press 'q' or Ctrl-C to abort, almost any other key for status
> 1500g 0:00:00:00 DONE (2014-01-02 10:17) 2205g/s 13239p/s 17647c/s
> 17647C/s u1499-oracle111..u0-oracle11u0
> Use the "--show" option to display all of the cracked passwords reliably
> Session completed
> u1498-oracle11   (u9-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u8-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u7-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u6-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u5-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u4-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u3-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u2-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u1-oracle11)
> u1498-oracle11   (u0-oracle11)
> 
> Are oracle11 and lotus85 essentially the same formats?

No, it's just that lotus85 is seriously broken (either the algorithm
used by Lotus Notes 8.5, or just out implementation.
I suggest setting FMT_NOT_EXACT and running incremental mode against
lotus85 and oracle11 test hashes...

Frank

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