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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:40:15 +0100
From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com>
To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: mschapv2-bitsliced conversion

I think you should revert this latest patch, it was probably less bad before. For OSX 64-bit you need to use relative addressing. If I do this:

1. revert this latest patch
2. drop the _P define in line 45 (for now)
3. change to relative addressing like this:

-#define P(i)                           P+nvec(i)
+#define P(i)                           P+nvec(i)(%rip)

...now the code assembles on OSX without a warning. However it fails self-test because the addressing is not quite right now I guess. I do not really know assembler but I think that is closer to a solution.

magnum


On 14 Feb, 2013, at 9:10 , magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> wrote:

> This did not help the OSX assembler:
> 
> x86-64.S:99:0: warning: "P" redefined [enabled by default]
> x86-64.S:45:0: note: this is the location of the previous definition
> x86-64.S:67:Unknown pseudo-op: .extern
> x86-64.S:67:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 95 (_).
> x86-64.S:1368:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
> x86-64.S:1368:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
> x86-64.S:1370:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
> x86-64.S:1370:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
> 
> This uses the same arch.h as Linux, but -DUNDERSCORES, -DBSD and -DALIGN_LOG.
> 
> magnum
> 
> 
> On 14 Feb, 2013, at 8:50 , deepika dutta <deepikadutta_19@...oo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am attaching a new patch handling the problem of multiple definition of P. I hope it works on all platforms.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Deepika
>> From: deepika dutta <deepikadutta_19@...oo.com>
>> To: "john-dev@...ts.openwall.com" <john-dev@...ts.openwall.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [john-dev] mschapv2-bitsliced conversion
>> 
>> I think I can correct the warning of multiple definition of P. Though this warning didn't occur in linux, I feel that P has been defined in multiple locations and need to be externed in the assembly file. I will look into this and give a new patch for your testing. I don't know why the other issues are coming, maybe someone can resolve them.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Deepika
>> From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com>
>> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [john-dev] mschapv2-bitsliced conversion
>> 
>> Deepika's work can be found in branch "mschapv2-bs" on GitHub, with patch history preserved. It is still based on 1.7.9-jumbo-5. It seems to work just fine on Linux (64-bit works fine on Bull, 32-bit cross compile builds fine too but we have no 32-bit OpenSSL to link against).
>> 
>> On 64-bit OSX I get this though:
>> 
>> x86-64.S:102:0: warning: "P" redefined [enabled by default]
>> x86-64.S:45:0: note: this is the location of the previous definition
>> x86-64.S:1371:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
>> x86-64.S:1371:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
>> x86-64.S:1373:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
>> x86-64.S:1373:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
>> x86-64.S:1375:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
>> x86-64.S:1375:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
>> x86-64.S:1377:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
>> x86-64.S:1377:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
>> x86-64.S:1379:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
>> x86-64.S:1379:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
>> ...
>> make[1]: *** [x86-64.o] Error 1
>> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
>> make: *** [macosx-x86-64] Error 2
>> 
>> And on 32-bit:
>> 
>> x86-sse.S:118:1: warning: "P" redefined
>> x86-sse.S:61:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
>> Undefined symbols for architecture i386:
>>   "P", referenced from:
>>       _DES_bs_crypt_plain in x86-sse.o
>> ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture i386
>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>> make[1]: *** [../run/john] Error 1
>> make: *** [macosx-x86-sse2] Error 2
>> 
>> 
>> These are hopefully trivial problems. If we get them solved, I'll see if I can add this as a separate format for a starter, eg. "mschapv2-bs" and merge it to current bleeding tree.
>> 
>> magnum
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 Feb, 2013, at 20:50 , magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Thanks, I'll have a look at your patch within a week.
>> > 
>> > magnum
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 7 Feb, 2013, at 20:21 , deepika dutta <deepikadutta_19@...oo.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Hi, I am attaching a new patch which is tested to work on both 32 and 64 bit SSE2 linux OS. I have modified both x86-sse.S and x86-64.S.
>> >> I cannot say for sure that this will not break the build on other targets. I think someone should test this since I do not have those target machines. I will try to rectify any problems which arise due to this.
>> >> 
>> >> Regarding working on converting other formats, though I don't think it will be too  difficult but I will inform you whenever I get ample time to devote on it :) 
>> >> 
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Deepika
>> >> From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com>
>> >> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com 
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:43 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [john-dev] mschapv2-bitsliced conversion- openmp support
>> >> 
>> >> On 7 Feb, 2013, at 8:35 , Frank Dittrich <frank_dittrich@...mail.com> wrote:
>> >>> On 02/07/2013 04:47 AM, Solar Designer wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:12:34AM -0800, deepika dutta wrote:
>> >>>>> Actually, I worked on coverting the DES_bs_crypt_plain(), which I had added to do single DES encryption, into SSE implementation.  I have added this function into the x86-sse.S file. Since the code in this file was in assembly language, I tried some copy-pasting from previous code and added some assembly code myself to get the single DES encryption working. I compiled this program using linux-x86-64 option, everything is working fine and the latest banchmarks for bitsliced implementation are given below. You can test for yourself. The patch is attached.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm confused - isn't x86-sse.S only used for 32 bit SSE builds? For 64-bit it should be x86-64.S. Or did you do both? That would be awesome.
>> >> 
>> >>>> This is cool, but (un)fortunately we've just revised the MSCHAPv2 format
>> >>>> such that it does not depend on speed of DES encryption anymore - see
>> >>>> the "NetNTLMv1 and MSCHAPv2" thread in here.  So I'm afraid there's no
>> >>>> point in introducing your changes to that format now (nor would they
>> >>>> apply to the revised code).
>> >>> 
>> >>> But the changes should apply to the new mschapv2-naive format which
>> >>> basically is the renamed old mschapv2 format, intended for shorter
>> >>> cracking runs, because it loads hashes faster than the new mschapv2.
>> >> 
>> >> True, although it wouldn't be much benefit other than as a nice example of code - you'll only use the old na´ve version for very short runs where the speed doesn't matter anyway.
>> >> 
>> >> Anyway, the thing that has stopped me from pulling the MSCHAPv2 BS patches into Jumbo is the fact they (so far) b0rked builds other than generic (and now linux-x86-64?). I haven't looked at this latest patch yet but I assume it still breaks some builds. There is no need to implement BS for every single target, but the changes need to be #ifdef'ed so that all builds pick code that works for it. Given that, I'll include it right away (even for mschapv2-naive).
>> >> 
>> >> Also, new patches should ideally be rebased upon the bleeding-jumbo branch on GitHub: https://github.com/magnumripper/JohnTheRipper/tree/bleeding-jumbo
>> >> 
>> >> magnum
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> <john-1.7.9-jumbo-5-MSCHAPV2-BS-4.diff>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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>> <john-1.7.9-jumbo-5-MSCHAPV2-BS-5.diff>
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