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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:25:13 +0200
From: Frank Dittrich <frank_dittrich@...mail.com>
To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Aleksey's status report #14

On 08/06/2012 03:49 AM, Solar Designer wrote:
> Aleksey, Frank -
> 
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:23:21PM +0200, Frank Dittrich wrote:
>> On 08/05/2012 09:22 PM, Aleksey Cherepanov wrote:
>>> You could find settings in
>>> ~/.config/Openwall/Johnny, the GUI for John the Ripper.conf
>>> So to remove them use
>>> $ rm ~/.config/Openwall/Johnny,\ the\ GUI\ for\ John\ the\ Ripper.conf 
>>
>> Can you use a file name without spaces and special characters. e.g.,
>> just ~/.config/Openwall/Johnny.conf instead?
>> It may be just a matter of taste, but I find file names with spaces
>> annoying.
>> If you don't line Johnny.conf, then may be Johnny-GUI.conf?
> 
> How about making it simply ~/.john/johnny.conf (all-lowercase) or
> ~/.john/gui.conf (ditto)?  John the Ripper may already create ~/.john if
> it is installed system-wide, we can just reuse this directory if present
> or create it if not.

Apparently, Aleksey uses a generig function which should work for
Windows as well, putting the config file into a user specific .config
subdirectory. (This was suggested by Simon in a private mail, and I
think it is a reasonable choice.

Other subdirectories I currently have in ~./config are
autostart  dconf    evince   ibus      Openwall       Thunar
transmission    xfce4
banshee-1  Empathy  gedit    leafpad   orage          totem      yelp
brasero    enchant  goa-1.0  nautilus  session-state  tracker  vlc

In addition to these directories (with config files in most of these),
there's a file Trolltech.conf. Looks like that was created when I
shortly tested the latest johnny version.

> ... In fact, why the .conf suffix?  Does this file use the same human
> friendly syntax that john.conf uses?  If so, this may be OK (although
> having the file overwritten by the GUI might be unexpected).  Otherwise,
> we need to call it something else - e.g., ~/.john/gui.dat.

I think Alexander didn't even specify that suffix.
It is added by the generic function Aleksey used
The config file uses a syntax similar to john.conf, with [Section]
and VarName=value.
I guess, under Windows, the file will be stored somewhere else (in an
Openwall subdirectory of a directory where other applications store
their config files), and the file name will have the suffix .ini.

Since I never edited one of the files in ~/.config manually, I am quite
sure these are all written by some GUI, so overwriting these files by
the GUI should b OK, don't you think?

Frank

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